1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,560 This is Walter Schrode, your roving reporter at KSRC Radio and Sacro de Mexico. 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:13,580 We have with us this afternoon Mr. Lonnie Zamor, the Sacro patrolman that while chasing 3 00:00:13,580 --> 00:00:19,840 a car, found himself in an area about two miles west of Sacro and one mile east of KSRC 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:25,440 radio station, at which time he reports he came upon an unidentified object resting on 5 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,440 four legs. 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:32,400 That as he drew closer, the object took off with a loud roar, starting blue, red flame, 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,080 and disappeared in the sky. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,160 A great number of cars and Sacro people have gathered here in front of the studios of KSRC 9 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:44,720 to catch a glimpse of Mr. Zamor as he arrived and welcome him with their car horn. 10 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,880 Mr. Zamor, after coming upon this object, just what did happen? 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,200 I went up that little road for about half a mile again. 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:01,680 Came up to this little barking deer there on the side of the road and I thought I'd 13 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:10,680 glance out the window, look to my left, I've seen this white object on the ground. 14 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,880 So I thought it might be a car that had turned over. 15 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:21,400 So I asked the river, the real big carry going out there to investigate, thought maybe somebody 16 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,600 would be hurt. 17 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:30,600 That time I saw this white, eight shaped looking object. 18 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,600 It looked something like an egg, you mean? 19 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:38,600 From the distance I was, it looked like an egg to me, about the size of a car, I think 20 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,600 someone said. 21 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,600 It sort of looked like a car that turned over. 22 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,600 That's why I said it was the size of a car. 23 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,600 And there's any kind of markings on it of any kind that you noticed? 24 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,800 Yes, it did. 25 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,800 Not from that far I didn't see the markings. 26 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,800 When I went up closer to it, I did see the markings. 27 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:08,800 And someone said that the markings that you saw was an upside down V with three lines running through it. 28 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:14,800 No sir, couldn't tell you that because they still, who are you saying doesn't go on marking? 29 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,800 They don't want you to say anything about the markings. 30 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,000 I have a lot of questions here on that. 31 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:23,000 And if we run into an area that they don't want you to talk about, you just say so. 32 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 And this happened about 5.30 Friday afternoon. 33 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:31,000 It happened about 5.50, about 10 minutes to 6. 34 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:36,000 And you just placed a call in to Sergeant Tavis of the State Police. 35 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Come on, I'll help you with the investigation. 36 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 From the fire source, the object, I didn't know what it was. 37 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:46,200 I placed a call to Sergeant Tavis of the State Police. 38 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,200 Told him he would come up there and help me on this. 39 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,200 He said yes, I'll be right there in about a few minutes. 40 00:02:53,200 --> 00:03:00,200 And he arrived just about 2 or 3 minutes after the object had taken off and left. 41 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:07,200 Well, the object was still about a couple of months up there when he arrived. 42 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,400 It was still at that direction it went. 43 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,400 It went about 4 the top of the mountain. 44 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:17,400 And we heard several reports that it proved low, like it was dragging something. 45 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,400 And we heard some... 46 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,400 They were very low to the ground. 47 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,400 At the time I was seeing that they were very low to the ground. 48 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,400 Up to the furlough, the mill there, and they thought it was beginning to empty too. 49 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Now, I'll... 50 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,400 So it was reported to me that when you first drove up into this area and decided to stop 51 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,600 the motorists were running and never going... 52 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:43,600 There was some sort of stress found, is that correct? 53 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,600 It was a cool thing because it happened so fast. 54 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,600 I started running a little scared. 55 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,600 I don't blame you. 56 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Thoughts on this had even scared me yet. 57 00:03:54,600 --> 00:04:00,600 Now, you did say that you saw two what appeared to be people dressed in white uniforms. 58 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,600 Did they have helmets on like spacemen or anything? 59 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:04,800 No, sir. 60 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,800 I would say there were people I just... 61 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,800 I saw some of them with white collar all that's what I could say. 62 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,800 That's like there was something in white cover all right. 63 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,800 But you couldn't identify them as actually being a human being. 64 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,800 No, sir. 65 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:25,800 And you didn't know where they turned and saw you or what then? 66 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Well, to my... 67 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:35,000 I would say that this white object turned and saw me. 68 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,000 Were there two of them? 69 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:42,000 I would say there were two because one was from France and the other was from the back. 70 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:50,000 You had a chance to know what kind of a doorway they had to this army, this flying army. 71 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Didn't notice them. 72 00:04:52,700 --> 00:05:00,700 And when that took off, it made a loud, loud roaring sound. 73 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:02,700 That... 74 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:06,700 I heard a very loud noise roar or something. 75 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:10,700 And then after it got up in the air about 20 feet while the sound seemed to disappear. 76 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:12,700 The sound was... 77 00:05:12,700 --> 00:05:14,700 It disappeared and was very, very quiet. 78 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:16,700 You could hear a pin drop there. 79 00:05:16,700 --> 00:05:20,700 And now these markings is left on the ground. 80 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:24,700 Now the reports that I have had and I haven't had a chance to go and take a look in the winds, 81 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:27,700 you have to be a probably a score of a lot of that anyway. 82 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:29,700 Whether that... 83 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:36,700 There were deep indentations in the ground approximately 10 inches wide and 6 to 8 inches deep. 84 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:38,700 About 15 feet apart. 85 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:40,700 Is that a correct report? 86 00:05:40,700 --> 00:05:47,700 Well, I would say it was about 19 feet apart of the... 87 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:49,700 Preve. 88 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:55,700 And was there any other prints like footprints around the area that had to take off 89 00:05:55,700 --> 00:05:57,700 when you were making the investigation? 90 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:01,700 There were some prints, but I wouldn't know if there were footprints or anything. 91 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:03,700 Prints, I don't think. 92 00:06:03,700 --> 00:06:06,700 You couldn't identify them as actually being a footprint. 93 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:11,700 There were indentations like maybe somebody might have walked there or somebody might have walked there. 94 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:14,700 Somebody walked around there because there was... 95 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:17,700 When I got there, there was nobody around there yet. 96 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:23,700 Now there was, according to a report on one of the news, the television stations in Albuquerque 97 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:31,700 claimed that they had a call just about 5.30 in Albuquerque of a sighting about flying objects, 98 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:32,700 flying in this direction. 99 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:34,700 Did you hear anything about that? 100 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:41,700 Low-flying, which if that be true, means that someone in Albuquerque saw this object flying in this direction 101 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:43,700 just prior to your sighting it. 102 00:06:43,700 --> 00:06:48,700 And which collaborates with the fact that there was something here. 103 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:53,700 Now it's the feeling, I get the feeling at least, Lonnie, as with the people that I've talked to 104 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:58,700 and they were out in the area, that they are quite sure that something landed there 105 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:03,700 and something took off from this spot because of not only the imprint that is left in the ground 106 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:10,700 but the fire that it started and the method of which the fire or the power that it was, 107 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:13,700 whatever, was using kind of spread itself as it took off. 108 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:14,700 Is that right? 109 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:15,700 Right. 110 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:19,700 I know there was something out there because I see it. 111 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:28,700 And what was your immediate reaction, as soon as you realized that this thing might be an object from outer space? 112 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:38,700 Well, I didn't think it would be an object from outer space because I don't believe in things like this in outer space. 113 00:07:38,700 --> 00:07:41,700 Well, it was something that you'd never seen before. 114 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:44,700 And you were not enough to just carry it around in the other direction? 115 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:50,700 Well, what scared me was the loud noise and the flame that it had under it. 116 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:53,700 It had a large flame as it took off. 117 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:58,700 Was it a yellow flame or a blueish-orange flame? 118 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:00,700 I thought this object was going to blow up. 119 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:02,700 This one started running back. 120 00:08:02,700 --> 00:08:12,700 And if you notice whether these arms that it was sitting on retracted back into the object, it blew away and it didn't have time. 121 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:15,700 I just ran in the other drag-a-law at that time. 122 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:16,700 I was done too. 123 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:25,700 Are there any other things about this trying that you think our listening audience might be interested in or something that you'd be allowed to tell us? 124 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,700 You know, it felt like so. 125 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:33,700 And it disappeared. 126 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:34,700 I answered that. 127 00:08:34,700 --> 00:08:37,700 A high sky after it got over around the pearl eyes? 128 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:39,700 It disappeared. 129 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:41,700 It was a little low too, the pearl eyes. 130 00:08:41,700 --> 00:08:46,700 And then from there on, it just fell fast and you could barely hear it. 131 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:47,700 Right? And great happening here? 132 00:08:47,700 --> 00:08:54,700 It had to be painted to what you were looking at to see what it was doing. 133 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:58,700 So, do you think we're going to get any more of them around here? 134 00:08:58,700 --> 00:08:59,700 I hope not. 135 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:00,700 Not immediately. 136 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:03,700 Well, that was quite an interesting experience. 137 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:09,700 I'm sure, and it caused an awful lot of comment. 138 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:13,700 Did the investigators that were called in make any comments at all? 139 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:21,700 In one direction or the other, was the exception that they do not have any such object in this area? 140 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:23,700 Well, there's still puzzled themselves here. 141 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:26,700 And there's been no report on the sampling. 142 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:33,700 They took of the area around there from the brain brush and the area that the blast hit the ground. 143 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:36,700 But my human curious of what kind of power was being used on this. 144 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:39,700 No, no, no. 145 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:43,700 Well, I think I just about covered it here. 146 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:44,700 Let's see. 147 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:46,700 It wasn't dragging anything. 148 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:54,700 We had a report that it was dragging something as it let no one say it was dragging nothing just blow through the ground. 149 00:09:54,700 --> 00:10:04,700 And you can't think of anything else then about deciding how this flying object that our listing audience might be interested in. 150 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:07,700 You know, or full of say no. 151 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:12,700 Well, Lonnie, I'm sure you've been getting an awful lot of questions and a lot of inquiry. 152 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:17,700 And you're beginning to get a little tired of it actually for many people calling and asking you about it. 153 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:20,700 Maybe this will be one way to keep that too many people from him. 154 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:23,700 You have to go through the story over and over again. 155 00:10:23,700 --> 00:10:26,700 Well, it's been a real pleasure talking to you, Mr. Lonnie Des Moines. 156 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:33,700 This is the gentleman, the support of patrolman that Friday at around 10 minutes to six, 157 00:10:33,700 --> 00:10:41,700 come up on an object, a flying object, an unidentified flying object that is the government preferred to call him. 158 00:10:41,700 --> 00:10:47,700 Excuse me, Walter, I've got some military people that serve as one talk to me now. 159 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:49,700 We leave that from the UFO. 160 00:10:49,700 --> 00:10:50,700 All right. 161 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:56,700 What you have is the military people that are here from the UFO to talk to you right now and to ask you some more questions about this. 162 00:10:56,700 --> 00:11:02,700 And they have not in any way tried to indicate that they didn't want us to cover this type of an issue. 163 00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:07,700 You know, sir, I just don't know if I was going to come here and talk to you on the way to take me this whole ride. 164 00:11:07,700 --> 00:11:09,700 Well, that's fine. 165 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:15,700 And we would be interested in knowing what they think about it as if they will allow it. 166 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:24,700 And after you get through talking to them, if you would call us back here at the SRC and to give us some of the information that they might allow you to let us broadcast. 167 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:25,700 We're glad to. 168 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:26,700 All right. 169 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:28,700 And this is tomorrow. 170 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:31,700 I hope that you don't come upon any more of these objects. 171 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:36,700 And as we find out exactly what they are. 172 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:39,700 So it's been a pleasure, Mr. DeMauro, having you in our studios. 173 00:11:39,700 --> 00:11:41,700 And we want to thank you. 174 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:43,700 And I know our listeners thank you. 175 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:53,700 And this is expressed by the great number of cars that are out here in front of our studios just to get a glimpse of what we might call a furcough celebrity right at the moment. 176 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:54,700 Thank you. 177 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:55,700 This is tomorrow. 178 00:11:55,700 --> 00:11:56,700 It's been very nice meeting you. 179 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:58,700 Not the SRC studios. 180 00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:03,700 You're just been listening to a CSI radio special featuring an interview with Mr. 181 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,700 DeMauro, the department here in Fulgore. 182 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:09,700 That's kind of a honor to the fans. 183 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:12,700 I think that's a little bit of a blow to the front.